Order of Man: Protect | Provide | Preside

We are reclaiming what it means to be a man. Each week we interview the world’s most successful men on the planet - elite athletes, warriors, New York Times Bestselling Authors, and world-class entrepreneurs – extract their hard-fought lessons and experience and deliver them straight to you. Past guests include Jocko Willink, Tim Kennedy, Andy Frisella, Lewis Howes, Grant Cardone, Ryan Holiday, Ben Greenfield, Rich Roll, and so many more. If you’re ready to level up your life as a man, this is the show for you.
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Sep 25, 2018

Everyone once in a while you have the opportunity to sit down and talk with someone like you've known them for years. Although me and my guest today, Pete Roberts, have only known each other for six months or so, we share some core values when it comes to the way we approach our life, our business, and our responsibilities as men.

Today we talk about how arrogance is hurting men, how to instill discipline in your children, the importance of self-checking yourself, and how to set yourself free.


  • The real deal with being an introvert/extrovert
  • How Jiu-Jitsu translates into life
  • Why you aren't as good as you think you are
  • How your arrogance is hurting you
  • The cycle of hardship and how it creates stronger men
  • The American Dream and how to bring it back
  • How to instill discipline into your children
  • Why brute strength isn't always your ally
  • How to keep kids from going soft
  • The power of "tribalism" and conformity
  • How to create a powerful culture
  • Delegating roles and responsibilities
  • How to effectively use the Pareto principle to produce more
  • How you can tell a lot about people through who associates with them
  • How Decentralized Command can help you win in business in life
  • How to remove your emotions from the equation
  • The importance of self-checking yourself
  • Why you need to get rid of stuff in your life


My guest today is friend and founder of Origin Maine, Pete Roberts.

I was fortunate enough to join him at his Jiu-Jitsu Immersion Camp a couple weeks ago and, while there, had an opportunity to sit down with him for an off-the-cuff interview about family, business, and life.

This is a man who I really admire and respect not only for his business acumen but the purpose and reasoning behind what he's doing for his family, his employees, and his community.

You've heard me talk about Origin for months. Now you get to meet the man behind the vision and his talk on business and the world.

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Sep 21, 2018

I can think of very few things as important as the role of fatherhood. Unfortunately, too many men are way too willing to step down from the mantle of fatherhood and into the lower tier of "buddy" or "bro."

Today, I share 10 strategies for ensuring you succeed as a father which ultimately means your kids succeed as adults.

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Sep 19, 2018

In this Ask Me Anything, Kipp Sorensen and I talk about man's propensity to take risks, how to reconcile the gap between science and spirituality, and how to foster discipline in children without breaking their spirit.

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Sep 18, 2018

Becoming better leaders is something all of us are striving to become. And, there's no better place to learn how to be an effective leader than the battlefield of Ramadi, Iraq during one of the most dangerous times during the Iraq War.

My guest today is Dave Berke, an instructor with Echelon Front and retired Marine Corps officer and fighter pilot. Today, we talk about taking those leadership lessons and applying them in civilian life, the importance of finding purposeful work, how to keep your children from going soft, delegating roles and responsibilities, and overcoming the obstacles of reality.


  • The importance of finding a purposeful mission
  • Overcoming the obstacles of reality
  • Understanding that there are no shortcuts in life
  • How air combat differs from ground combat
  • What is the "best of combat"
  • How to combat loss
  • How to create a meaningful life
  • The purpose of warriors
  • How to keep kids from going soft
  • Why you should be careful of solving people's problems
  • Setting realistic expectations for yourself and others
  • Delegating roles and responsibilities
  • When getting too close to your team hinders performance
  • Why you need to understand that conflict is not a bad thing


My guest today is Dave Berke.

He is a retired Marine Corps officer, fighter pilot, and ground combat leader. He spent three years as an instructor at TOPGUN and later went on to support task unit bruiser on the ground in Ramadi.

He's flown the F-16, F-18, F-22, and F-35 but gave that up to serve in multiple combat missions in some of the most dangerous cities in Iraq.

He's since gone on to become a leadership instructor with Echelon Front on the subject of leadership, decision making, risk mitigation, and creating winning teams.

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Sep 14, 2018

One of the most common challenges among men is the relationship with their wife. It's not really all that surprising. Anytime two people come together with their own set of experiences, perspectives, upbringing, cultures, and backgrounds, there's bound to struggle.

Unfortunately, these differences lead to separation and divorce all too often. The union between a man and his wife is one of the most powerful relationships any man can strive to have which is why it must be fought for.

Today, I share 20 strategies (plus 1 bonus strategy) for winning with your wife.

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Sep 12, 2018

Today, me and Kipp Sorensen cover how to become more decisive and still open ourselves up to new information, how to create effective rites of passages, establishing healthy boundaries, and your one key objective as a leader.

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Sep 11, 2018

Extreme Ownership is a philosophy that has been coined by Navy SEALs, Jocko Willink and Leif Babin, and one that most of you listening are familiar with. But when does extreme ownership become too much?

That's a question my guest, Jocko Willink, has answered in his new book, The Dichotomy of Leadership. Today, we explore that question, how to avoid taking things too far, how to overcome your own ego when you recognize it, how to strike the balance between caring for your team and placing the mission first, and so much more.


  • How to get into Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
  • How Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu translates into everyday life
  • How to remove your ego from the equation
  • When extreme ownership becomes a problem
  • How to avoid taking things too far
  • How and why you should allow your subordinates to lead
  • The dichotomy of caring about your team but putting the mission first
  • How to best honor the fallen
  • The meaning of duty
  • When to allow slack and when not to
  • The importance of appearance in leadership
  • Why you should make your boss look great
  • When you should and shouldn't tell the truth to your team
  • Why you should avoid "false cheerleading"
  • Why making things fun for your children is critical towards their development
  • How to use the practice of "flanking" in leadership
  • How to overcome your own ego when you recognize it


My guest today is a man who needs no introduction.

His name is Jocko Willink and this is the third time I've been fortunate enough to interview him for this podcast. Today, we cover his new book, The Dichotomy of Leadership (which is sure to be a New York Times Bestseller), the follow-up to Extreme Ownership.

As you are all well aware, Jocko is a Navy SEAL and was the commander of Task Unit Bruiser, the most highly-decorated special forces unit of the Iraq War.

I was fortunate enough to spend some time with him a couple weeks ago at Origin's Immersion Camp and I can tell you that this is a man who lives what he preaches. I saw a perspective of him through his instruction and stories from his team that only solidifies my respect for who he is as a veteran, husband, father, and man.

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Sep 7, 2018

It seems there's a growing trend of entitlement in society today. Everywhere you turn, people are demanding results they haven't earned - a minimum wage, job security, health insurance, happiness, a minimum standard of living, etc., etc., etc.

Then, they have the audacity to complain when they don't get exactly what they want. It's sickening, to say the least. Today, I share 5 simple strategies for overcoming the entitlement mentality and how to get more out of life.

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Sep 5, 2018

Today, we field questions from the Order of Man Facebook Group on becoming more motivated, living in integrity, dealing with a separation, overcoming a victimhood mentality, violence as a virtue, and so much more.

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Sep 4, 2018

There is no question, our boys are in trouble. Take a look at any metric and it becomes painfully obvious that our young men are falling behind - violence, grades, drug abuse, and suicide to name a few. The questions is not, "Is it happening?" but, "Why?"

Today I am joined by Dr. Warren Farrell, a leader in understanding the issues our boys are facing. We talk about how men have fallen into a "purpose void," why boys need to be raised differently than girls, the rise of the Incels, and how to deal with the emerging boy crisis.


  • The many ways in which our boys are in trouble
  • Why these problems were created by a solution
  • How men have fallen into a "purpose void"
  • The "hero paradox" and social bribes to men
  • Why our boys need to be raised differently
  • What happens to boy and girls when they're dad-deprived
  • How fathering can become our purpose
  • Causes of depression and suicide
  • Addressing ADHD in our young men
  • Does the "gender pay gap" really exist
  • The rise of the Incels
  • How the ability to delay gratification is a huge indicator of future success
  • The key differences between heroic intelligence and health intelligence
  • How boys respond to biological fathers versus step-fathers
  • The importance of roughhousing


My guest today is Dr. Warren Farrell.

He is a leader in the movement to understand the myriad of issues our young men are facing. Previously, a feminist and the only man to ever be elected three times to the National Organization for Women, he has since seen what the feminist movement has become and it's negative impact on our boys.

He's been selected as one of the world's top 100 thought leaders and has had numerous appearances on CNN, Lary King Live, Oprah, The Today Show, Good Morning America, New York Times, Forbes, and the Wall Street Journal.

He's taught at all levels of education and is a frequent speaker at Fortune 500 companies, military branches, and even NASA. It was such an honor to talk to him and get so much incredible insight into his thoughts and boys and gender, in general.

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Sep 1, 2018

Today, Ryan Michler and Kipp Sorensen discuss Origin's Jiu-Jitsu Immersion Camp, the "x-factor," how to build more confidence, how to get started in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, and why every man should consider some sort of martial art.

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Aug 29, 2018

This week, Ryan Michler and Kipp Sorensen field questions from members of the Order of Man Facebook Group. They cover disciplining children, dealing with ADHD/PTSD, overcoming addiction, and so much more.

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Aug 28, 2018

Violence isn't a word a lot of people believe should be attributed to men and his responsibilities. We know that isn't true because we believe that the ability to violence is not only within us, it can be harnessed to keep ourselves and others protected from those who wish to do violence to us.

Today, I am joined by Marine Corps Veteran, Ian Strimbeck to talk about why every man should learn how to harness the darker side of masculinity. We cover so much in this podcast including harnessing effective verbalization skills, how to get better at predicting human behavior, the power of intuition and how to use it effectively, and how to develop and harness the softer side of violence.


  • Developing the soft skills required to face adversity
  • The difference between software and hardware when it comes to facing threats
  • Why every man needs to wrap his head around potential violence
  • How to avoid "target fixation"
  • How to develop and harness effective verbalization skills
  • How to get better at predicting human behavior
  • How the skills for violence are translatable to everyday life
  • Why we should learn to tap into our primal roots
  • The importance of humility in keeping yourself and other safe
  • Learning not to make yourself a target
  • The power of intuition and how to use it effectively
  • The four cues you should be aware of in others when looking for threats
  • How "profiling" can keep you alive
  • The correct priority of engagement
  • How to use appearance as a deterrent
  • Why establishing baseline behavior in others is so crucial


My guest today is veteran of the United States Marine Corps, Ian Strimbeck.

Ian reached out a couple months ago and, as I was preparing for this conversation, I was extremely impressed by his resume as a veteran and warrior in not only the military but in the executive protection space.

He's taken what he has learned on the battlefield and now teaches those who want to be better protectors of themselves and the people they have a responsibility for.

This was such a fascinating discussion with an extremely fascinating man and I think, not only are you going to enjoy our conversation, you're going to walk away with some information that could just save your life.

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Aug 24, 2018

Too many men are searching for external validation from their friends, family, and colleagues. The problem with that is that it's beyond your control. The far superior path is to learn to make yourself proud. The rest will take care of itself.

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Aug 22, 2018

Today, Ryan Michler and Kipp Sorensen field questions from members of the Order of Man Facebook Group. They cover how to establish effective boundaries, boosting testosterone naturally, and what should be included in an "Every Day Carry."

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Aug 21, 2018

We live in a culture of ultimate softness but there seems to be a resurgence of men who understand the value of being tough, resilient, and gritty. These are the men I aspire to be more like because I understand how crucial it is, as Theodore Roosevelt states, to "keep the barbarian virtues."

Today, I am joined by my friend, Brian Call, AKA Gritty, to talk about how hunting and connecting with nature makes you tougher, why we need to learn from the men who have gone before, the role parents play in developing fortitude in their children, and how you can develop more grit.


How to get started in bow hunting
How hunting makes you tougher
Developing discipline through hobbies
The dangers of being disconnected from your food
How the mass of our meat gets processed
Why eating meat is not unethical
How hunting creates a wide range of emotional sorrow and joy
Why you need to learn from men who have gone before
How to keep calm in a potentially dangerous situation
The role parents play in developing grit in their children
The danger of the "outrage society" in which we live
Why it's not a good idea to search for "happiness"
How to overcome fear and weakness through exposure
How minimalism helps you become free


Gentlemen, today I have the honor of introducing you to my friend, Brian Call.

He is an avid bow hunter and the founder and host of the Gritty Podcast where he talks all things bowhunting and developing more grit.

I've been following him and his work for quite some time now and I finally had the chance to connect with him in this candid interview. What really resonates with me about Brian is his willingness to share not only his victories but his setbacks and how he's managed to overcome them.

I hope you enjoy this powerful conversation with a man I really admire and respect.

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Aug 17, 2018

One of my biggest struggles is patience. I think the same holds true for any high-achieving man. We tend to want the results immediately. Unfortunately, it just doesn't work that way. That, however, does not mean we need to sit back and simply wait for our goals to come to fruition. Today, I share six strategies for exercising patience while assertively working towards our objectives.

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Aug 15, 2018

In our first-ever "Ask Me Anything," Ryan Michler and Kipp Sorensen field questions from members of the Order of Man Facebook Group. They cover how one overcomes guilt and past mistakes, how to support a wife with a stressful job, how to change the future, and so much more.

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Aug 14, 2018

There is so much to talk about in the world today but very few people who are capable of having an intelligent conversation about some sensitive subjects without completely losing their minds.

Today, I am joined again by my friend, Sal Di Stefano to talk about a lot of these hot and polarizing topics including how technology is changing conversation, the moral implications of markets and governments, how important it is that fathers are in the home, the legalization of drugs, the shift towards nihilism, and everywhere in between.


  • The power of decentralization
  • How technology is changing conversations
  • The importance of embracing immerging technology
  • The problems with formal higher education
  • How free markets allocate resources effectively and efficiently
  • Why policy needs to be enacted based on data, not feelings
  • The moral implications of markets and governments
  • How minimum wage requirements price out entry-level workers
  • How the rejection of personal responsibility leads to nihilism
  • How money fixed the problem found in voluntary trade
  • The dangers inherently found in "equality of outcome"
  • How market specialization creates more productive results
  • The slippery slope of enacting laws to protect you from yourself
  • The negative and positive impact of legalizing drugs
  • How important it is that fathers are in the home
  • How children become a powerful source of purpose and direction for fathers
  • How and why every man needs to find purpose and direction in life
  • How your self-help journey should start in the gym
  • How intermittent fasting can benefit you in all aspects of your life
  • The slippery slope of enacting laws to protect you from yourself
  • The importance of nutrition in your health overhaul


Sal Di Stefano is back for round two.

He is someone that I've gotten to know over the past couple of years. We've been able to connect because we agree on a lot of the same issues and are extremely interested in having important and relevant dialogue on topics most people shy away from.

Sal is the co-founder of MindPump Media. He's spent nearly 20 years as a fitness and personal trainer and focused science and truth to the fitness industry.

Although we only talk about fitness and nutrition towards the end of this conversation, it's apparent that Sal is someone who strives to find objective truth in all facets of life and prides himself and sharing that truth with others.

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Aug 10, 2018

Unfortunately, finding a man of character, conviction, and principle has become increasingly difficult. More and more, men are becoming wishy-washy, weak, cowardly, and otherwise pathetic.

Today, I share 5 simple strategies every man can employ to grow a spine become a man of strength and character.

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Aug 7, 2018

Building a business is something on so many men's minds. I can't even begin to count how many men I hear from who are unsatisfied with where they are with regards to their professional life and career path.

Today, I talk with my good friend, Jordan Harbertson, co-founder of MTNOPS, to uncover how he's been able to build a thriving business. We cover the importance of proximity to other powerful people, how to know when you're ready to take the entrepreneurial leap, striking the balance between giving and taking, and how every man can build a business of meaning and significance.


  • Our dependence on technology
  • The importance of proximity to other powerful people
  • How to tell a powerful story to connect with others
  • How to build something special in your life
  • How to identify and connect with the right people
  • The first steps to discovering your purpose
  • How to know if you're ready to take a leap into entrepreneurship
  • How to get your wife on board with a new venture
  • Addressing and overcoming obstacles
  • How improving communication improves all areas of life
  • How to strike the balance between giving and taking
  • Why belief in what you're doing is so important
  • How to become more influential by changing yourself


Men, I am honored to introduce you to my friend, Jordan Harbertson.

He and I met years ago as we both launched our businesses around the same time. I've been inspired watching him market his business and create something truly special for himself, his business partners, his community, and his family. I've watched him and his partners take MTN OPS from a simple idea to a powerhouse in the very crowded marketplace of supplemental nutrition.

Jordan is one of the most real people I know. He takes about his struggles personally and professionally including his transformation with his fitness over the past several months and what it takes to succeed in business and life.

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Aug 3, 2018

Most men know how critical it is to build a team around him but very few men invest the time, energy, and resources into building one. Today I talk about why a team is so important and share five strategies for building a powerful group of men who will help you succeed.

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Jul 31, 2018

Legendary is a term we hear often. But, when is the last time you actually thought about what it meant? Being legendary is about creating and living a life in which the principles and lessons you leave behind will last long after you're dead and gone.

Today, I'm joined by the President of Sorinex, Bert Sorin. We cover the importance of creating the right culture, balancing family time with professional ambition, leading through vulnerability, and how a man becomes legendary.


  • The importance of the right culture
  • Balancing family time with professional ambition
  • The power of presence
  • Why vision is so critical
  • How to overcome going through the motions
  • How to find more time for yourself
  • How to deal with people clamoring for your attention
  • Leading through vulnerability
  • Why apologizing doesn't undermine your authority
  • Finding the solutions to your own problems
  • Improving human performance
  • How to overcome stagnation
  • Pros and cons of running a family business


My guest today is Bert Sorin, CEO of Sorinex. If you're not familiar with Sorinex, they are the leading innovator in American made strength and conditioning equipment.

Bert grew up in the business his dad started nearly four decades ago and has since gone on to develop, refine, and innovate the business into what it is today.

Bert is a former Division 1 Track and Field All-American and an Olympics trails athlete. Since then, he's gone on to build his family business and create a legacy that reaches far beyond what he and his father have built.

He's become a friend over the past several months and I can't think of a better man to talk with me about leading ourselves, our businesses, and our families the best way we're capable of.

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Jul 27, 2018

There's a lot of talk about "evolving the definition" of masculinity. What a shame since masculinity has driven much of the positive growth we enjoy in society today. Couple the desire to change what masculinity is with the confusion about what it is in the first place and it's easy to understand why there's so much misinformation about what masculinity is and, ultimately, what it means to be a man.

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Jul 24, 2018

Addiction is something a lot of men are facing. Whether it's an addiction to alcohol, pornography, or drugs, it is something that can be overcome.

Today, I am joined by UFC fighter, Court McGee, to talk about his battle with addiction and his ability over the past decade to fight and win this never-ending battle. We talk about his positive upbringing, how he used fighting as an outlet, the disease of addiction, his downward spiral, and how he has overcome his drug addiction. This one is a bit different as I wanted to give Court the platform to share his story so I gave him the mic and let him run.


  • The disease of addiction
  • The importance of meaning and significance
  • How ego gets in the way and magnifies addiction
  • Why people turn to self-medication
  • How to avoid lying to yourself
  • The importance of finding a team to surround yourself with
  • Developing and fostering willpower
  • The power of a support unit
  • How martial arts and other activities can help in overcoming addiction
  • How to use your pain as a catalyst for growth
  • How to use your struggles to serve others


I'm honored to introduce you to my guest, Mr. Court McGee.

Court is a UFC fighter and the winner of the 11th season of the Ultimate Fighter. Despite his accomplishments in the ring, today, we focus on his personal life outside of it

Court spent a lot of his life hooked on just about every drug imaginable and once overdosed on heroin where he was estimated to have spent 8 minutes without a heartbeat or pulse.

There is no doubt that Court McGee is a man who knows how to fight but I am absolutely blown away with the story of his greatest battle in overcoming addiction, walking the path of long-term sobriety, how he handles adversity, and how he's taken his greatest challenge and turned himself into a force for good.

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